The email situation and plan?

Matthew matthew at ei8ht.us
Tue Oct 18 19:07:32 EDT 2022


I support this. I've not looked at mail services in 4 years or so, but I
ended up with the aws offering when I set up Discourse back then.

It would break all the links, but you _can_ import mailman archives into
Discourse. Some messages required a bit of massaging, but it worked well.

-- 
Matthew
(mobile)

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 16:52 Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com> wrote:

> So yeah.. Another quarter and email isn't done.. Sorry this has taken
> so long, it's just difficult and complicated.. That said, I was
> talking to Robby O'Conner (r0bby from #pidgin) and he's in charge of
> the infrastructure for librehealth[1] and he mentioned that they use
> mailgun[2] for their email.
>
> Mailgun doesn't have an Open Source plan, which means we'd need to pay
> for it. It does support both incoming routing rules (it looks like for
> multiple domains but I need to confirm) as well email forwarding and
> even a REST API if we need that for some reason. The price for 10,000
> emails a month (their lowest plan) is $35 per month, which would be
> about $420 USD a year. This seems like an obvious no-brainer to me as
> supporting, securing, and maintaining an email system is no simple
> task and we can make it not our problem for less than $500 USD a year.
>
> So my plan, with the board's approval, is to roll out Discourse[3] on
> a DigitalOcean node, import the mailman users lists into it, and
> create spaces for Pidgin, Finch, Purple, GNT, and IMFreedom on it with
> appropriate threads and stuff to replace our existing mailing lists.
> We would then point Discourse to the current email server that Richard
> has patiently been hosting as I try to get this all figured out. Once
> that move is complete, we would then replace the email server with
> mailgun and finally move past this.
>
> I need to verify a few things yet, like confirming that mailgun does
> support multiple domains, how robust their incoming filters are, and
> testing the user import from mailman into Discourse.
>
> When it comes to the existing archives, the easiest solution is to
> just dump them in a container with pipermail and serve them at the
> existing URLs, but I'd really like to not have to require that old
> version of mailman to get pipermail. So if anyone knows of another
> solution, including just rendering it all out to static HTML please
> let me know.
>
> Also, as a side note, I will be looking for employment soon as I'm
> running out of funds, so if the board would like to pay me to do this
> stuff, that would be very cool but of course not expected.
>
> [1] https://librehealth.io/
> [2] https://www.mailgun.com/pricing/
> [3] https://www.discourse.org/
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com>
>
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