stricter postfix settings
Luke Schierer
lschiere at pidgin.im
Sun Jun 13 23:57:32 EDT 2010
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Luke
On Jun 13, 2010, at 23:54 EDT, Paul Aurich wrote:
> On 2010-06-13 14:22, Ethan Blanton wrote:
>> Paul Aurich spake unto us the following wisdom:
>>> At John's suggestion, I'm bringing this up here.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if the pidgin.im mail servers were a bit more
>>> restrictive in what mail they accept. In particular, my
>>> (darkrain42.org) mail server is routinely rejecting a message or two
>>> coming from bogus domains:
>>>
>>> postfix/smtpd: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from rock.pidgin.im[74.63.8.88]:
>>> 450 4.1.8 <apache at localhost.localdomain>: Sender address rejected:
>>> Domain not found; from=<apache at localhost.localdomain>
>>> to=<paul at darkrain42.org> proto=ESMTP helo=<rock.pidgin.im>
>>
>> We have traditionally handled such things with per-user spam filters
>> (spamprobe is available on rock, as is spamassassin; the latter can
>> check for this condition). I could be convinced to add this
>> particular check to the default config, if there's general
>> concurrence. I find it annoying, myself, but basically everyone has
>> to have their outgoing mail set up to spoof as necessary, anyway,
>> since so many servers set it.
>
> A [growing] number of people (myself included) with mail aliases don't
> have accounts, so we can't set up spam filters. (I also suspect a
> .forward would use a valid sender address, though I don't think I've
> looked.) I might be the only one who compulsively reads all my logcheck
> emails, though.
>
>>> There might be other things that could be added (greylisting or pinging
>>> an RBL come to mind), but I don't feel as strongly about those.
>>
>> I am personally opposed to both of these. Greylisting slows down
>> legitimate emails by a potentially long time (if mail servers are set
>> conservatively, as they should be, it can reasonably be several
>> hours). As far as RBLs ... there are RBLs and then there are RBLs.
>> I'd prefer to leave this up to the individual user's spam filters.
>> I'll push back on both greylisting and RBLs, but I am ultimately only
>> one voice.
>
> I figure that's the general sentiment on both (and I don't think any
> spam forwarded via pidgin.im reaches my inbox, so I don't care much). I
> thought I'd mention them just in case. :)
>
> ~Paul
>
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