I have an idea, does it already exist? anyone interested?

[David Smith]

I would find any sentence containing "most people" and "vi" (or even ssh) extremely suspect. Of the five people currently in the house I'm in, for example, I'm the only one even capable of doing that, and I have no reason or desire to. Am I missing something?

As for log format standards, there was a valiant attempt by Adium developers and Pidgin Summer of Code students, but it ended up not getting much/any adoption outside of Adium. I would say things to consider are: searchability, portability, convertibility, quick access to the last N messages (many clients pull the last messages from a chat for context when opening a new chat, and lag there is unacceptable), preservation of message *and* chat metadata, and preservation of attachments (direct IM images for example).

One thing that occurs to me is that storage on most devices is large enough these days that it might be acceptable to store some sort of package file with both a human-readable text representation and a full-metadata database or markup representation of some sort.

	David

On Dec 30, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Youness Alaoui wrote:

> From experience, I'd say most people want to browse their logs with a simple text editor (vi/less over ssh).
> Having a standard is a good idea though, I just don't know anything about couchdb so I can't really talk about whether or not it's a good idea to use it.
> I think it's important to ask questions like 'is it scalable?', 'can you group messages?' (for example a message from X on a private chat, versus on a group chat).
> I think the telepathy team should be included in this talk, their telepathy-logger would also benefit from a standard format (see http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Logger ).
> 
> KaKaRoTo
> 
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mariano Guerra <luismarianoguerra at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Roger Duran <roger at rogerpc.com.ar> wrote:
> > I think it's a great idea.
> >
> > Also desktopcouch, the version ubuntu has, its on freedesktop
> > http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch
> 
> from what I see we should define a format for "Conversations" and try
> to add it to the desktopcouch specification.
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